tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2109150351375891279.post8085310353156068849..comments2023-05-26T13:58:00.927-07:00Comments on Mathie x Pensive: TCH: Two Teachers Per ClassGregory Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06547180132612659893noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2109150351375891279.post-2121220685105709502013-06-22T21:12:57.817-07:002013-06-22T21:12:57.817-07:00Yeah, I brought up the personality thing, then nev...Yeah, I brought up the personality thing, then never really addressed it. It does seem like it would be the more difficult thing to manage. Nice to get the perspective of someone who's been there, thanks.<br /><br />I like the idea of the engagement, though of course part of my thought had been one person do upcoming lessons while the other do prior marking... which is not as feasible for the planner if neither is 'teaching', both are 'facilitating'. Still, there might be something to the whole notion. Something to keep pondering.Gregory Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547180132612659893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2109150351375891279.post-39918679773454363542013-06-16T19:51:53.949-07:002013-06-16T19:51:53.949-07:00This is done in the name of mainstreaming in my ar...This is done in the name of mainstreaming in my area. I've had 3 co-teachers, one handled papers and discipline but that's it. Another would say she would teach, but it was always next week (which never came) and the last we started well, til she went on maternity leave. <br /><br />The equitable sharing part is very difficult to manage. Without it, the kids qickly figure out who the real teacher is, and then neither teacher I very happy. At times, when it worked it was fun to have another person there to help with the material and clarify things for the students, but sadly it was the exception rather than the rule. Also, the special ed teachers are frequently pulled for things wgich meant that they were either trying to get caught back up or just frustrated themselves.<br /><br />Would I do it again? Sure, but the notion of unit, or even topic switch teaching, is not how I would attempt it. Make it an engagement between two professionals when we're both present, with neither of us coming across as 'the teacher' <br /><br />asymptote12https://www.blogger.com/profile/04552324687060580556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2109150351375891279.post-33692873555463912372013-06-08T15:19:46.999-07:002013-06-08T15:19:46.999-07:00Curtis: Interesting. Not 100% what I was talking a...Curtis: Interesting. Not 100% what I was talking about, as the morning teacher would still be there in the afternoon and vice versa, but your experience implies the practice is plausible.<br /><br />Scott: It's funny, someone found an exam schedule from twenty years ago; there were actually something like 9 days in January and AGAIN in June to handle the semester transition. I also see on Twitter that other places have less than our 184 instructional days. Why does Ontario feel the need to cram people into schools for as long as possible over 18 years, right from our new "full day" Kindergarten? Anyway.<br /><br />Thanks for the validation.Gregory Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547180132612659893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2109150351375891279.post-29497165438894235462013-05-14T11:45:41.562-07:002013-05-14T11:45:41.562-07:00I had two teachers in grade 6. One taught in the m...I had two teachers in grade 6. One taught in the morning, the other in the afternoon. From a student's perspective, it broke the day quite nicely and I don't recall any real problems.<br /><br />For the teachers, I'm sure it had its advantages. The morning teacher was semi-retired and the afternoon teacher was also the school councilor.<br /><br />The idea definitely has merit and would be great to see in practice. I feel the biggest trouble will be to get the government to open the purse strings in order to pay for the extra needed teachers. It's hard enough to get them to pay for materials you need now, let alone for a new idea.Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09101358509922926698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2109150351375891279.post-84989080116009960072013-05-13T20:04:33.513-07:002013-05-13T20:04:33.513-07:00I've had two profs teach a subject in universi...I've had two profs teach a subject in university, so it is doable. (Well, prof and instructor, but neither were TAs.) The idea is mind blowing, really.<br /><br />Why it's not being done...<br />1) No one thought of it before. Or, someone did but the timing wasn't right. Class sizes have been growing without increasing the number of teachers for some time. Previously, the marking load might have been at the edge of reasonable.<br /><br />2) Someone thought of it but no one wanted to pay for the extra teaching staff, either because of budget restrictions or ideology. I don't think you'd need to double the number of teachers, but there would be an increase in staffing. Then again, since the mid-80s, every job site has been understaffed. Time to fix that.<br /><br />3) It makes sense. A lot of sense. Can't have that. The Catch-22 approach to government. There is a loud, vocal segment of the population that hates paying taxes for anyone else's benefit. Once in a while, their party gets in to the detriment of the province.<br /><br />4) It's a paradigm shift. No one can conceive the idea because their experience is from the student's view, not the teacher's. Almost everyone has been in a classroom as a student at some point; in elementary, you just have one teacher, two at most. In secondary, you get a teacher per subject, but just the one teacher.<br /><br />I like the idea. It's mind-blowing in its simplicity, though you did point out problems that could come up. I can see in some classes having both teachers at the front of the class at once being a benefit; drama comes to mind as does music. I just wish I knew how to get the idea out...Scott Delahunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06735796666483741699noreply@blogger.com